Welcome to part two of our conversation with Andy Hopkins about the dead house.

Tell me just how dark did things get in the house and how scary did it get for you as a kid?

How extreme did things go?

Well, they got very bad.

I mean, after a few years, well, a few years living there, my mom, she met another guy and we, he was a bit of a sleaze ball, to be quite honest. He liked to drink. He was quite a few years older than my mom. And he, he, he, a few years prior to meeting my mom, he'd had a stroke. So he kind of affected his brain a little bit. But he, he, he, a few years prior to to meet him, my mom, he'd had a stroke.

So he kind of affected his brain a little bit.

But he, I remember we used to call him Ratman because he just, he was sleazy.

He gave us the creeps and he, yeah, so after a little while he was, the house loved him because he was oppressive, he was negative, and while he was there, we were having a lot of activity.

I was held down in my bed.

And very much, I was about sort of nine or ten, you know, I wasn't a young boy anymore.

And I got to the point where I wouldn't dare go downstairs to the toilet.

Because I was afraid of getting out of bed at night.

You know, it got, it got to that point where I didn't, I couldn't, I couldn't get out of my bed.

You know, we had, anyway, I digress slightly.

This one night, he, then my mum and Ratman, they'd gone out to the pub,

and they came back maybe an hour or two later,

and I heard my mum crying from downstairs.

It kind of woke me up with her coming back in.

My brother was still downstairs.

My sister was in bed.

And I just, then about maybe a little while later,

I heard hammering on the door,

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