Welcome to part two of our interview with Stephen Blackwell.

About 232, Birch.

Let's go back to the 232, Birch, for a moment here to talk about that.

When these things were going on and you started to have these experiences,

especially when your wife saw the little boy that was running around and you saw the little boy.

What was her background with paranormal experiences?

Was this all new to her?

What was she thinking?

It was.

Yeah, no, it was.

It was all new to her. She had less intelligence about the paranormal than I did at that time, which, you know, I didn't have a lot.

And so to her, it was, it started off a little more frightening for her, but as the experiences

continued throughout the years, both of us found it very intriguing. We were very interested in seeing what the next experience would show us.

And we saw everything from doors opening and closing to salt and pepper shakers being moved from our kitchen up to our bathtub.

We saw, you know, shoes being spewed across the house when it wasn't one of us that did it, and our children were much too young to be able to do that.

And, you know, we figure that, you know, those full-bodied apparitions that we think we saw with the little boy followed a theme that seemed to take place with all of our

experiences. And that went back to, you know, the sound we couldn't really relate to the child,

but, you know, my wife seeing the boy walk past her peripheral vision and seeing the boy

standing out in the rain outside, those were only the first couple of things that seemed to kind of float around a little boy's presence.

And so we often asked ourselves, you know, I wonder if a boy, a little boy, had passed away in this property.

And it wasn't until later we started

doing some, uh, looking into the death records and so on, like I said, but we were unable to kind

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