This is Sarah Stewart Holland. This is Beth Silver's. You're listening to Pantsu Politics, where we take a different approach to the news. Thank you. We're here a day later than usual.

Thank you so much for joining us today.

We're here a day later than usual because we wanted to

get you our reflections on last night's presidential debate as quickly as

possible. Huge thanks to our partners at Studio D for getting this episode to

you quickly and off schedule.

We also know that many of you are thinking seriously about the best ways to use your time and

money in this election, so we're going to offer our suggestions to you on what might be

effective.

And then, of course, we have to discuss Taylor.

Taylor has spoken about the election.

So we'll spend a few minutes on that at the very end.

But before that, we have a few announcements.

If you are a premium member we have our next quarterly live event, our Spicy Life, on Thursday

evening, September 19th. Now if you are subscribed through Apple, send us your emails. The

link is in the show notes and we will send the link to you for the Spicy

Live. We'll also be including our paid sub-stact members for the first time ever as a part of our spicy life.

So look for that if you're a subscriber on sub-stack.

Before we talk about the debate, I just want to acknowledge that we are recording and publishing

this episode on September 11th that has been 23 years since the attacks on our country that took so many lives and that really changed our national

psyche. So we are thinking of everyone for whom those 23 years still

feel like a very short time today. And we wanted to let you know that several years ago

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