Me doing what I want to do every day means I'm doing plenty of things every day I don't want to be doing in the micro.

Right, there's a next meeting, the this, this fire, but in the macro I'm playing the game.

I'm the captain of this ship and on sunny days I get to enjoy it and when the

storm hits and our boat might tip over I've got to have my hands on the wheel and I've got

to fix it. That's where I want to be forever.

Gary, this is such a joy to do. As I said to you beforehand,

seven years of me waiting, but I'm so thrilled that you join me.

So thank you so much for joining me today.

Thanks for having me, Harry.

Glad to be on the show.

Not at all.

I would love to start on, before we dive into the real meat,

just as some context.

How did you make your way into the world of investing and tech first before we dive into the meat?

You know, I never knew about investing.

You know, I was, when did I invest in Twitter, 2007?

I was 32 years old the first time I made an investment.

I had never really even heard about angel investing.

The world was very different back in 2006. Now it is common practice.

Most kids think about being an investor. You have 13 year olds, you know, on Robin Hood and

NFTs. And so I was 32. I never thought about it prior, but I got into social media, Web 2.0, and I started to go to things like

South by Southwest and this and that.

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