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Good Guy / Bad Guy

The Hardest Hitter We Ever Fought! + The End of an Era?

Good Guy / Bad Guy

ESPN Radio

Sports

4.42.7K Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Good Guy / Bad Guy…Jon Jones, José Aldo, Dominick Cruz, Robbie Lawler, Anthony Smith, Matt Brown and now Dustin Poirier. Are we seeing an end of an era with the OG’s of the game laying down the gloves? Plus, the Bad Guy has a “conspiracy theory” about the newly crowned Lightweight Champ Illia Topuria, his promise to the UFC and Islam Makhachev. Then, can you guess who DC & Chael say packed the hardest punch during their careers? And, could we soon see a matchup between Tom Aspinall and Derrick Lewis for the Heavyweight strap? Oh, yeah…Chael is telling more lies! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Daniel, he hit me with that hand. I remember the late great Robert Follas going, hey, you're going to be okay. Hey, hang on. I remember trying to like piece together what happened. And Dan looks at me while I'm, this is Daniel and partner. I gotta start off with one simple question. Did you get your car back?

0:29.6

So, oh my goodness, they found it. They found my car, bro, and Hayward. And you know what's crazy about the whole thing?

0:37.9

Chill.

0:39.1

Where is Hayward is? I'm sorry, I don't know where Hayward is.

0:40.4

Where's Hayward? California? Oakland, yeah, it's right by Oakland. You know where Oaktown is. You know, it gets a little tricky out in Oakland. Yes, it's the town right next to Oakland. Chale, you would have thought that with that much heat on the vehicle, that's what

0:55.5

they call it, heat whenever something's like a hot car, hot, you never had a friend that

0:59.7

tried to go, hey man, I got these Jordans I want to sell you or something. You're like, those

1:03.0

are hot. I don't want those. You stole those. You would think it's on the news. You find out

1:09.6

it's mine. Get rid of the car.

1:11.7

Somebody was driving it as their own jail. It was just their vehicle. They had taken off the VIN number and changed it. Then they took it to the DMV and got licensed to X, Jill. How do you do that? How do you think it? That's a thing. I've actually heard of this

1:08.2

that if you can get

1:09.2

you know you got to know where all the VIN numbers are

1:10.8

there's not just the one on the dance. There's one on the door. But if you know how to switch those out, it can be complicated. But you had like a GPS or something. Wasn't it? I thought it was on like a boat. It looked like it was on a boat, but they said that a lot of times when they're driving out in that area, it pings in the water. So I thought it was gone.

1:28.0

But I mean, they still, they found the car. The San Jose PD, bro, they're really, really good. They're really, really good. You know, by the way, Daniel, by the way, when it's time to start this show, we have to start to show. There's a whole control room. Yeah, I know. But sometimes we have to catch up.

1:44.2

But it turns out that we started the show right after I had a French fry. And it turns out it's a little bit stuck in. So I'm trying to get it out, but it might be best to just tell you, all right. Okay. Can I Bring something up to you. Go ahead. Bring something up because you're in Nashville. Derek Lewis, who's on the card, who everybody loves. By the way, people love the beast. Myself included, not for nothing, myself included. At the presser didn't even talk about his opponent Saturday. He called out Tom Aspinall. Yeah. And he went as far as to say, it's a style issue. I'm changing his words a little bit, but he was talking about it's a style issue. I'll stand and I'll trade with him. And Daniel, as soon as he said it, I got to tell you, I did like, I realized that fight isn't happening. I realize no matter how great Derek looks, he's not going in title fight. I'm just sharing with you. It resonated in some degree, and we don't really know what's going with the heavyweight division. Tom's got something. You and I are starting a rumor about surreal. John Jones is back in the testing pool. I'm just sharing. That's what the B said. Did you happen to hear it? so yes, yes, I heard about Derek Lewis, and he said a lot about that. It's like, hey, when my grandmother used to babysit me as a kid, there were these morning soap operas as the world turns, the young and the restless. And all those are the days of our lives. They all played. And that's the heavyweight division. We're going to get to

3:24.9

that, though. Chill, we have to like, you're right, that control room, guess what? There's even a

3:29.3

button that knocks just on my side that tells me to get on topic at this point. And I guess the

3:34.8

first topic is retirements because of the big fights that are happening in the next couple weeks in the

3:41.5

retirements.

3:41.8

But I do want to talk about the beast.

3:43.5

So we should discuss Derek Lewis and what he said later in the show.

3:47.3

But retirements, Chale, we are kind of getting into an area where we're running through

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