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Open Source with Christopher Lydon

The Hard Work of Organizing

Open Source with Christopher Lydon

Christopher Lydon

Arts

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 24 July 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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We’re retracing our steps out of the last bad-dream era in American life. Michael Ansara was in the thick of that struggle too, around war and justice. The Hard Work of Hope is his memoir ...

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0:00.0

I'm Christopher Leiden, and this is open source, retracing our steps out of the last bad dream era in American life.

0:08.9

Michael and Sarah was in the thick of that struggle, too, around war and justice.

0:14.7

The hard work of hope is his memoir of many losses and his own big mistakes that come back 50 years later as lessons

0:24.6

and light.

0:26.6

You know, I have to take us back to that year of 1968, which was so amazing.

0:32.6

A year of hope, a year of blood, a year of just surprise after surprise after surprise, and a year of hope, a year of blood, a year of just surprise after surprise after surprise,

0:41.3

and a year where history hinged.

0:44.4

And in that year, we made some critical mistakes that we are feeling the impact of to this day.

0:51.9

So we decided the anti-war movement, or certainly SDS and the new

0:57.5

left, that politics was completely corrupt and that there was no difference. We used to say

1:04.5

the lesser of two evils is still evil. And so when it came to the election of 1968 between Humphrey and Nixon, our position was

1:15.2

vote in the street, vote with your feet. Don't vote. Don't participate in the elections.

1:20.5

I must have heard you because I didn't vote.

1:22.1

Right. Well, the voting age was 21, so a lot of us were too young. I was 21, and I didn't even register to vote.

1:30.2

And, you know, part of that was our disdain for the corrupt liberals who had been managing the country and prosecuting the war.

1:40.1

And Humphrey's refusal to break with the war until the very last days of the campaign.

1:46.0

It was a half-hearted break. It wasn't a real one. And so I would say we weren't wrong in our

1:50.9

assessment of Humphrey, a tired, sad, liberal whose political life had been exhausted.

1:58.3

Where we made our mistake was that we really had a failure of political

2:02.0

imagination about how bad Richard Nixon could be. You know, what would happen if you had an

2:08.6

insecure man with tons of grievances who had no respect for the Constitution? And we saw

2:15.6

him start a series of things.

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