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Each week on this show, I invite a girlfriend to join me and we chat about the big

things in life, the little things in life and everything in between.

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Guys, welcome today's show.

It is episode number 262.

And before we get to our guess, I just want to acknowledge that today is September 11th.

And for many people in our country, this is a day that brings so much pain.

And so we just want to say that we remember you and we're here with you.

We remember what happened 18 years ago on 911.

Today, my guest is Sarah May.

Sarah's a podcaster.

She's an author.

She's a mom at a three spunky kids and she's a wife to a woodworker in Pennsylvania.

Sarah and I sat down to talk about how we love others even when it hurts.

She talks about her story of learning to love her mom through the wounds from years of

painful interaction, addiction and hurt.

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