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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Hangover Chapter 6: Chris Stirewalt and John Podhoretz

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.76.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 June 2021

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

Conservative journalism has changed markedly since John Podhoretz began his career at the Washington Times in the early 1980s. When Matt Drudge broke the Monica Lewinsky story in 1998, it was clear that things would never be the same. On today’s episode of The Hangover, John joins Chris Stirewalt to explore how the changing media ecosystem contributed to Donald Trump’s election in 2016. The pair reflect on the creation of The Weekly Standard, electoral politics in the Clinton and Obama years, and how Trump’s victory affected the conservative movement. Even though Trump is no longer president, will his presence in conservative media continue to be felt for the foreseeable future? Show Notes: -John’s page at Commentary -John on the history of The Weekly Standard -Bill Clinton’s 1996 State of the Union address -Matt Drudge breaks the Lewinsky scandal -Josh Marshall: “The Digital News Industry Was Built on Lies” -Glenn Beck and Roger Ailes -Obama’s birth certificate coffee mugs -National Review’s “Against Trump” issue -Chris Christie’s takedown of Marco Rubio -16 magazine Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Chris Styrwalt and this is The Hangover, a limited run podcast from the Dispatch

0:05.2

and Dispatch media that aims to figure out how Republicans took the shortest trip for

0:09.6

a party in nearly 70 years, from total control in Washington to absolute minority.

0:15.2

The GOP doesn't seem very interested in understanding why, so we'll have to do it for them.

0:20.1

How did the surprise success of 2016 give way to defeat, an effort to overturn the election,

0:25.4

and the siege of the U.S. Capitol?

0:27.3

And what comes next?

0:29.3

There's a little zealig in John Pudhoritz.

0:32.2

He appears again and again in the story of the birth of the modern conservative movement

0:36.0

and the right-wing media.

0:37.5

He has worked at nearly every big time-right of center outlet and can count as friends,

0:41.8

and sometimes foes, many of the luminaries of American public lives in the past four

0:46.0

decades.

0:47.0

I was thrilled when my friend agreed to join us for a survey of the birth, growth, and decay

0:51.8

of the conservative media as we knew it.

0:54.4

As they say, he's got the receipts.

0:56.8

Our conversation was just as I expected.

0:59.0

A roleicking, expansive, and insightful, just like our guest himself.

1:04.4

John, thank you for being with us.

1:14.5

A pleasure.

1:15.5

Well, I will confess, since it will be evident anyway, that I've most been looking forward

1:22.2

to this part of the hangover and talking to you because it's not only are you just fun

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