Hi, I'm Chris Dyerwald and this is The Hangover, a limited run podcast from the dispatch

and dispatch media that aims to figure out how Republicans took the shortest trip for a

party in nearly 70 years from total control in Washington to absolute minority. The GOP

doesn't seem very interested in understanding why, so we'll have to do it for them.

How did the surprise success of 2016 give way to defeat an effort to overturn the election

and the siege of the U.S. Capitol and what comes next? You can picture Steve Kornaki, there

at the map with his khakis breasts and shirts still crisp in the wee hours on election night,

wielding his digital pen with ease and enthusiasm. He is the Tuscanyne of the illustrator, now

even for NFL games in the Kentucky Derby. That's just the flash. The substance Kornaki,

the national political correspondent for NBC News, brings to the study of elections is even

more impressive. Before joining NBC, he covered Congress roll call, his impartial analysis

and deep knowledge of electoral trends is on full display in his book The Red and the

Blue, the 1990s in the birth of political tribalism. It is essential reading for anyone

who wants to understand how our political system melted down. He will be our guide as we

explore the changes in the Republican Party and the political demographics of the country,

and we are very lucky to have him. Steve, thank you so much for being with us. Chris,

I'm happy to be here looking forward to this one. Okay, I am struggling with something mightily,

and the mighty struggle is what I would love to talk to you about is your book The Red

and the Blue, which I tell people if they want to really get it, read your book and then

also read American Carnage by, why am I drawing a blank on my friend's name, who lives in

Michigan? Yeah, by Tim Alberta. So if you read your book that takes you to the proto-present

your book is about the 90s and it's about how cable television, Newt Gingrich, Bill Clinton,

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