Hi, I'm Chris Stuyerwalt and this is the Hangover, a limited run podcast from the dispatch

and dispatch media that aims to figure out how Republicans took the shortest trip for

a party in nearly 70 years from total control in Washington to absolute minority.

The GOP doesn't seem very interested in understanding why, so we'll have to do it for them.

How did the surprise success of 2016 give way to defeat, an effort to steal the election,

and the siege of the U.S. Capitol? And what comes next?

Richard Brookheiser is one of the preeminent American historians of his generation. His

books and documentaries on the founding fathers particularly Alexander Hamilton and George

Washington are essentials. His biography of Abraham Lincoln, founder Sun, brought a new

understanding and elevation of Lincoln's place in history. A prolific journalist and

cultural observer, he is the longtime senior editor of National Review.

Brookheiser and his wife, Gene Safer, a noted psychiatrist and determined liberal, co-author

to recent book, I love you, but I hate your politics. It drew on there more than three

decades of marriage to help Americans reestablish healthy dialogue in an era of toxic partisanship.

There is no one better to help us understand the context of the Republican populist revolt

and its place in American political history, for what those partisan passions mean for the

health of the Republic.

I Richard, thank you for being with us. We are grateful indeed. The question that I wrestle

with a lot and I think only history can answer for us in any satisfying way is, am I too

concerned or not concerned enough? I don't just hear the topic of this discussion, what

happened in the Republican Party specifically, but obviously that fits into a larger political

dynamic. Some days I am saying what? Well, this is messy right now, but it's always messy.

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