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Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

The Hacking of the American Mind: The Science Behind the Corporate Takeover of Our Bodies and Brains With Robert H. Lustig, M.D., M.S.L

Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.8684 Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

The future of Public Health depends on protection against unrestrained corporate power. A sicker humanity means increased pain and suffering at large. In the past, we have identified numerous exposures that have made us sick, many of which are addictive, and created shield laws to protect the corporations that peddle them. We also know it’s our most toxic addictions that are killing the planet and its people currently, whether due to climate crisis or ingesting harmful chemical substances. When Big Tobacco tried to convince the world that ingesting tar and nicotine made people healthier (“9 out of 10 doctors smoke Camels”), science revealed otherwise and insisted upon laws to regulate the industry more closely. Robert H. Lustig, M.D., M.S.L suggests that we consider a similar strategy for sugar, particularly the fructose or refined fructose molecules commonly found to be overdosing society through packaged products. Per his biography, he wants to help “fix the food supply any way he can.” Lustig explaine that one of the essential patterns to recognize in battling addiction is the dichotomy between pleasure vs. happiness. Dr. Lustig is an Emeritus Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology and a Member of the Institute for Health Policy Studies at UCSF. He is a neuroendocrinologist with expertise in obesity, diabetes, metabolism, and nutrition. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of my podcast, cult conversations,

0:09.6

the influence continuum.

0:12.0

And today I have a distinguished guest who is going to talk to us about both sides of the

0:19.4

influence continuum, what we can do to stay healthy for our minds

0:25.0

and our bodies, and the undue influence in this fine book that actually came out in 2017,

0:34.5

which I just read twice, or listened to it as well as read it, the hacking of the

0:41.1

American mind, the science behind the corporate takeover of our bodies and our brains.

0:47.0

And let me just give you a little intro before we start.

0:50.8

Please, you are a emeritus professor of pediatrics in the division of

0:56.5

endocrinology, a member of the Institute of the Health Policy Studies at the University

1:02.2

of California, San Francisco. You're a neuroendocrinologist. Your expertise includes obesity, diabetes, metabolism, nutrition, one of the leading leaders of the

1:17.6

current anti-sugar movement, which we're going to get into. But I also want to say you're not just

1:25.0

an MD, but you also did a law degree at the Hastings College of

1:30.3

Law. And you know, I have an interest in the law as a mental health professional. So we overlap on that.

1:36.4

I think we all do, especially now. And you're a nice, nice boy from Brooklyn. I'm a nice boy from

1:42.1

Queens. I can't, how to throw that in. I won't hold it against you. But we met at a brain

1:47.8

mind conference out in California and we had lunch together and I was like, whoa, I want to know more

1:55.3

about your work. And you are mentioning, we were talking about vaccinations and measles and the current administration.

2:03.8

And you were like, I was actually asked to consider coming on board.

2:09.5

And I just said no, because I have to have integrity and do the right thing as a doctor.

2:16.4

There you go.

2:17.4

So with that, with that, really... and do the right thing as a doctor. There you go. That sums it up.

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