Yo, technology.

What is it all about?

He created a loop of I want something, I can't get it, I found a code, I broke it, I got it.

No one stopped him, right? No one told him that I was wrong.

And then he thought, what else can I break? And then he escalates down a pub.

And his mother actually looked at me and said, I'm really worried that people are going to think he's a criminal. I was like, well, I mean, he is. I mean, that's the problem.

Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley, your weekly dispatch from behind the scenes and inside the minds of the top people in tech this week.

We are bringing you a conversation with a startup not in the Valley, but in London.

And it is a little off the beaten path because what we're talking about, in fact, is hacking.

And specifically, we're looking at how it is that teenagers were often right on the front lines of this kind of murky world online.

And if you step back, it makes sense.

So younger generations are really the kind of the first to grow up online. They have a facility and ease of comfort with all things tech.

And many will spend hours and hours gaming, for example, where maybe they want to get a skin

or some type of digital asset. They can't get it. Their parents won't pay for it. So they go on to

an online forum.

People are swapping tips about how to kind of break into the game, get various things,

you try it out, and maybe you get more and more sophisticated, see what else you can break

into online.

Maybe even start making some money, you get the idea.

In any event, teen hacking is a very big deal. So there was a Homeland Security report just last year in Elapsis, which was a group of,

kind of a loose group of teenagers, young people in their late teens, early 20s, who broke

into a bunch of companies, Microsoft, Alta, NVIDIA, a bunch of really sophisticated companies

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