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Hey, it's Carl here. I'm the presenter of the show.

I just wanted to let you know that this episode contains references to suicide.

We've put some links with resources in the episode notes

in case we're affected by the things we talk about in the show.

One, three. One, three. The Everything was quiet when Detective Randy McAllister drove down the dark, tree-lined road to the old wine house.

There aren't really any streetlights for the most part, but I could see flashing emergency lights down the road.

It was around 8pm on November 13, 2016.

McAllister pulled down the gravel drive.

It was after harvest time, and crops were turning brown in the fields.

There were a lot of police cars there, you know, a lot of police officers.

I saw Stephen R. Wine and their son standing out on the road.

Detective McAllister approached the house, an open-planned one-story building with solar panels on the road. Detective McAllister approached the house,

an open-planned one-story building with solar panels on the roof.

The door to the garage was open.

A light from inside spilled out, casting shadows on the neatly cut grass.

I went through the access door in the garage, inside the house.

As you step through that door, you're in a mudroom.

A couple of dog kennels there.

The first thing he noticed was the comforting smell of a suburban family home.

There was a pumpkin being roasted in a big roaster on the countertop in the kitchen.

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