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Welcome to the Gun Talk After Show. All right we are now in the after show portion and to our regular compliment of

Michelle Cleveland over there, hi Michelle, hello and Jim Kenzy over there. Hi Michelle. Hello. And Jim Kenzy over there. I'm not a

Michelle but I'm proud to be here. You are but yeah it's like that then we have

Michelle Serino with us so we have two Michelle's and then we have the other guys. So we don't

we don't count from much on this one Jim. Sure. That's right.

Jerry says. Well I see that Michelle has taught you use one word replies we really don't want to hear a lot from you

You have to be very careful with that yes no

Yes, no, okay I'm sorry you've used up your quota of words sir. So this was hilarious.

So we're doing the show today and Michelle Serino is talking about training and

Michelle Cleveland who also trains people is typing in yeah, but what about this what about that?

Michelle was it driving you crazy not been able to get on and talk with Michelle about it?

It's always nice to converse with others who instruct and understand, I guess, technical issues

that might arise with just verbalizing something.

So when you go out onto the range and you actually have to do it hands on it it's quite

different so to say you have to have a firm grip there are people that just

choke the living daylights out of a pistol and then you have exactly the opposite

the people that barely hold on to it and

it will perform either way so it was just one of those things that's like okay let's explain

a little bit right right and it's the whole day off, what does firm mean? You know, you got one person who, if they don't

have tremors and they're not shaking, it's not hard enough. And the other one that just can

barely hold on to it and think, well that is firm. You go, no, it's really not.

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