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Welcome to the special guest host series of the Trauma Therapers podcast, where I'm going to be

handing over the mic to some incredible

guest hosts. In each episode, you'll hear fresh perspectives and unique insights to inform

and inspire you and all the while keeping the heart of this podcast alive. So sit back and enjoy.

Hello. Hey. I am so happy to have you on.

Yes.

I'm excited to be here.

Thank you.

And as we were discussing right before we hit record, I am thrilled to have more

representation of chronic illness therapists on this podcast because I think that's far

I've been the only one and

there's more than one of us right in this in this realm there's there's quite a few and you actually

kind of have a membership and you have a database and we're going to talk about that and get into it

you've kind of become the chronic illness therapist resource hub in essence.

So, Destiny, tell us, tell us about yourself and kind of how you got here.

Yes. So in, let's 2019, I was still in grad school. I was trying to figure out what I wanted to do. I had some

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