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🗓️ 13 April 2023
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Episode Summary: In this episode of Body Bags we delve into a baffling triple homicide case with multiple murder scenes and explore the backgrounds of the victims and suspect, Elias Gudino, who has a history of drug trafficking, and consider potential motives for the murders.
Hosts Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss the challenges of kidnapping, restraining, and controlling multiple victims, as well as the significance of the chosen dumping grounds. They examine forensic details, such as rigor mortis and postmortem lividity, to determine the crime scene and the sequence of events.
Shownotes:
00:20 - Introduction to a triple homicide case.
01:22 - Overview of the triple homicide, including bound, gagged, and shot victims.
04:00 - Speculation on whether one individual could carry out this crime spree and comparisons to other multiple homicide cases.
05:25 - The challenge of controlling, restraining, and transporting multiple victims as a single perpetrator.
07:05 - Introducing the suspect, Elias Gudino, and examining his background, including drug trafficking past.
08:05 - Roadway access and its importance in this case, along with crime scene locations and their potential significance.
09:50 - Forensics of the case and insights on where the crime began, postmortem lividity, and rigor mortis.
12:15 - Coordination when investigating multiple crime scenes and commonalities between them.
13:05 - The ages of the victims and possible connections between Gudino and the victims.
20:00 - Exploring where the crime began and how forensics can provide answers.
22:10 - How rigor mortis and algor mortis can be indicators in the investigation.
27:05 - Timeline for a body to become flaccid again and how it can be a useful clue for investigators.
29:45 - Were the victims at the crime scene all night or were they dumped just before the call came in?
30:45 - The limited illumination at the crime scene and how darkness plays a role in the perpetrator's actions.
31:15 - Different materials used for restraining the victims, types of knots, and the type of gag used on the victims.
32:40 - Examining casings and projectiles to link crime scenes to specific weapons.
33:45 - Questioning the perpetrator count and crime sequence
33:55 - Outro
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0:00.0 | Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan. |
0:19.6 | You take a trip sometimes, you get excited, the anticipation of seeing a new place or going |
0:26.6 | somewhere. For me, many times that excitement soon turns to anxiety because I'm worried, |
0:33.3 | do I have everything I need, and lots of times I have to travel to do appearances and things |
0:38.8 | like that and I'm terrified of getting my luggage lost for one and thinking maybe I haven't |
0:45.1 | brought certain items that I might need. You can always buy those things in another environment, |
0:50.5 | but you know you're familiar with those things that you like, those things that you use on a regular |
0:55.6 | basis. When it comes to planning a homicide, how do you begin to formulate that in your brain? |
1:04.5 | There are people that have engaged in the killing of others and they have a murder kit that they |
1:11.3 | put together. How do you decide what to pack? How do you know what tool you want to bring? |
1:17.0 | Today on Body Bags, we're going to talk about a triple homicide, three men that were found bound, |
1:24.5 | gagged and shot in the back of the head in two separate locations. |
1:31.1 | I'm Joseph Scott Morgan and this is Body Bags. |
1:40.2 | Joining me today is my friend Dave Mack. He's a senior crime reporter for crime online. |
1:48.7 | Dave, I don't know that you've ever contemplated something like this, but you know, you begin to |
1:53.8 | think, wow, what would it take? You know, this is not, this is a monumental hill to climb, |
2:00.9 | an exercise in conducting something like this, participating in it. What are you going to need? |
2:05.9 | What are you going to need before you go out and you seemingly perhaps maybe kidnap people? |
2:12.2 | And then once you kidnap them, what are you going to do with them? How are you going to dispose of them? |
2:18.1 | It, it's certainly something that would give you pause to say the very least. |
2:23.4 | It would require a lot of planning and it would require time. |
2:28.5 | It would probably require help to lay it out for you. It's 830 in the morning and a guy is walking |
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