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The Brian Lehrer Show

The Growth of DHS Detention Camps

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan Blitzer talks about the scale of the U.S. immigrant detention program, health and safety issues and expansion plans, following the firing of DHS Sec. Kristi Noem.

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0:00.0

Brian Mayer on WNYC, with the war on Iran taking center stage and news coverage,

0:16.0

it's easy to lose sight of the Trump administration's main domestic agenda, mass deportation. And even within that,

0:23.8

it's easy to miss a big aspect of it that flies under the radar mass detention. New Yorker staff

0:30.2

writer Jonathan Blitzer has a very good new article about that. And there's also breaking news.

0:34.8

A woman from New Jersey the last 10 years, an immigrant from the West Bank,

0:39.2

was released from a detention center in Texas yesterday after a year behind bars there, March 13th,

0:46.4

2025 until yesterday, March 16th, 26th, and she was emblematic of two big trends in immigration detention.

0:55.0

One, according to the AP, she was detained while voluntarily checking in with ICE in New Jersey.

1:02.0

And two, she was the last of the people still being held in connection with protesting the war in Gaza at Columbia University.

1:10.0

Mahmoud Khalil out of detention, Mosan Madhw Dhabi out of detention. with protesting the war in Gaza at Columbia University.

1:14.5

Mahmoud Khalil out of detention, Mosan Madhawi out of detention,

1:18.9

and now much later and much less well-known, La Khadirdea.

1:23.6

And upon her release yesterday, she drew attention not just to her case, but to the larger detention issue.

1:31.3

Okay. case, but to the larger detention issue. We're going to keep fighting. There is a lot of injustice in this place. There is a lot of

1:37.5

people that they shouldn't be here in the first place. We're going to keep fighting for them.

1:42.5

We're not going to forget them. And we're not free until

1:45.2

everybody is free. La Cauta Cordia yesterday. With us now, New Yorker's staff writer Jonathan Blitzer,

1:51.5

who is also author of the much-aclaimed book from 2024. Everyone who is gone is here,

1:57.7

the United States, Central America, and the making of a crisis. He was on the show for a

2:02.8

book interview for that at the time. His latest article is called Trump's mass detention campaign.

2:09.6

Jonathan, thanks for coming on. Welcome back to WNYC. Thanks for having me. It's common to hear the term

2:15.9

mass deportation. Not so much mass detention.

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