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This is Fresh Air. I'm Dave Davies. Many Americans appalled by the violence of the January 6th

assault on the U.S. Capitol likely assumed that the rioters came from regions where Donald

Trump had his deepest support. But researchers from the University of Chicago found that most

came from places Joe Biden had won in the election, often counties where the white population

was shrinking relative to non-whites. One example is Orange County, California, south of Los Angeles.

That's a region highlighted by our guest, veteran investigative journalist Eric Listblow in his

new book. He argues that America is seeing a nationwide surge in violent bigotry and white supremacy,

unlike anything since the bloodiest days of the civil rights movement,

often spurred on by incendiary racial rhetoric from Donald Trump.

Lishblow writes about young men who follow neo-Nazi organizations and in some cases commit horrendous

crimes, including the brutal murder of a young gay Jewish man in Orange County, a central focus

of his book.

Eric Lisplow is a Washington-based journalist and two-time Pulitzer Prize winner who spent

years working for the Los Angeles Times and the New York Times.

He's written three previous books, including the bestseller, The Nazis Next Door.

His latest book is American Reich,

a murder in Orange County, neo-Nazis, and a New Age of Hate. Well, Eric Lishbough, welcome back

to fresh air. Thanks very much for having me, Dave. It's great to be back. You know, a lot of the

troubling incidents of white supremacist violence that you recount in this book, were

reported at the time. What made you decide there was a broader story here you wanted to tell?

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