The Grizzlies’ Future, the Devers Trade, NBA Draft Takes, and a Kon Knueppel Interview | With Chris Vernon, Joe House, and Kevin Hench

The Bill Simmons Podcast

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4.5 • 29.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 143 minutes

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Chris Vernon and Joe House to discuss the Grizzlies sending Desmond Bane to Orlando before talking about the U.S. Open and the NBA draft (2:24). Then, Bill chats with Kevin Hench about the Rafael Devers trade (01:09:10). Finally, NBA draft prospect Kon Knueppel joins the pod to talk about playing for Duke, Cooper Flagg, giving up his Bucks fandom, and much more (01:34:24). Host: Bill Simmons Guests: Chris Vernon, Joe House, Kevin Hench, and Kon Knueppel Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo This episode is presented by State Farm®. Dishing the assists you need off the court. State Farm® with the Assist. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit⁠ www.rg-help.com⁠ to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The Bill Simmons podcast is presented by the Ringer podcast network where Avenue
0:05.3	Rwatchables that is also going up simultaneously with this podcast.
0:09.1	I guess we did Marathon Man as part of New York City Month.
0:12.2	And next week, just be ready of, I think six days to watch it, die hard with a vengeance
0:17.7	will be the next one.
0:19.4	And I think that's our 400th episode for the rewatchables.
0:22.1	We don't celebrate episodes.
0:23.6	We celebrate movies.
0:24.4	Getting closer and closer to the 400th movie.
0:27.4	Anyway, Marathon Man is up.
0:28.9	You can watch it on the Ringer Movies YouTube channel as well.
0:31.6	This is my third podcast of the week.
0:34.6	It's mid-June.
0:36.5	A lot of stuff going on. You know, Raphael Devers got traded by the Red Sox.
0:41.6	I have Khan Connipple coming up later, who is going to, looks like going to be in the top five of the lottery.
0:48.5	So I wanted to talk to him. There's reasons for that, which we'll get into. And then at the top, Chris Vernon and I were arguing about the Desmond Bain trade for two days.
0:58.9	We finally decided to have it out on the podcast.
1:01.0	We brought in Joe House, who has a pretty amazing golf story to start off.
1:05.2	And we talked about the Memphis trade, Orlando.
1:08.1	We talked about golf and a really weird U.S. Open.
1:12.1	We talked about the NBA draft, some of the odds that are happening.
1:15.2	And then some of the perceptions of the city of Memphis, which Vernon was very passionate
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