Don't be discouraged if you don't get work in the first three, four months slash years.

For me, I was a PA, and that's how I funded living in New York City and still trying to be a photographer.

I was, you know, first one there, last one to leave all the time on all these big shoots and got paid nothing.

Just finding a way to

fund your passion and keep with it dan prakopik is a l-a-based photographer by way of new jersey he's worked

with g easy toured with john mayor and his work has been featured in complex rolling stone

and spin magazines and he's my cousin can you believe and his work has been featured in complex Rolling Stone and Spin Magazines.

And he's my cousin.

Can you believe?

This is the thing.

That's not going to sound weird to you until you hear the story because we met about a month ago and we didn't know we were cousins.

And then it just, you know, I don't want to ruin it it's a really short

story but we we cover it in the beginning of the podcast super serendipitous super strange but it

turns out uh that were blood that were cousins which is cool uh because it's always great

to have family close by uh on the podcast we talk about how he worked his way up as a PA, struggling in New York City, landing his first gigs, and how to make it as a freelance photographer.

We answer some big questions like, when should you work for free?

When should you lower your rate or increase your rate?

And how do you find clients when there's no one knocking at your door?

Huge questions for freelancers, photographers, anybody in a creative field.

Speaking of questions, do you have a question for my guests or myself?

Do you have a question about your own creative journey? If so, record a short audio or video clip.

Keep it under two minutes. Send it to hello atiavella.com and I'll get you on the podcast.

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