I definitely, I definitely feel like the Grinch is like, I feel like I relate more to the Grinch

every year. Yeah, absolutely. Oh my God, yes. Hi, and welcome to a very special holiday bonus episode.

My name's Nicole. I'm on the team here at Realm that brings you the shows you're listening to on Epic.

I sat down with some of our brilliant creatives to discuss the best stories for the holiday season, movies, books, and of course, podcasts.

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forward slash ICL. I'm Heatherather i'm the marketing lead at realm hi

i'm rhoda i'm a producer over at rome hi i'm marco i'm a producer at rome thanks for sitting

down with me today everyone um to kick us off let's start by talking about what makes a holiday

story a holiday story like what are the elements that you think

that you need in order to be considered a movie, a show, a book, a podcast for this time of year?

I think it has to be during some time, like cold time. Like for me, that's very important. It needs to

feel like cozy. Like it doesn't have to be snow, but something cold. Like, me, that's very important. It needs to feel like cozy. Like, it doesn't have to be snow,

but something cold. Like, lots of wool. Like, I love when people are wearing, like, wool and scarves

and, and cozy socks and things. Yes, I think the attire is very important. And just the, like,

vibe of, of cold times.

It doesn't have to be like a specific holiday,

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