Hello and welcome to episode 15 of the Grey NATO, a loose discussion of travel, adventure, diving, gear, and most certainly watches.

I'm James Stacy.

And I'm Jason Heaton.

So James and I haven't talked much since I left Vancouver after our TGM summit, which we talked about in our last episode and that

really doesn't have anything to do with a preponderance of proximity during my

visit to Vancouver. We're just both been kind of busy in the past couple of weeks.

I need a full download from from you We're just both been kind of busy in the past couple of weeks.

I need a full download from you, James, on your successful ascent of Mount Baker, which we'll get to.

But first, today's topic, we're going to talk about bags.

Backpacks, tots, camera bags, basically the way we haul our stuff around.

It's something that's a bit of an obsession for you and I, James.

Not a week goes by that we don't really lament the existence of a perfect bag I think we discuss it all the time

You know James I think for me there are some distinctive categories and some that certainly overlap of bags that I find myself using and that is you know bags that are kind of specific to

carrying camera gear day packs that you use for a short hike or some travel, or even like a more of a dedicated travel pack that maybe you want to use when a backpack isn't maybe as suitable like when you're wearing a

sport coat or something like that. But you know it's really tough as we've

discussed to really find a bag that overlaps all of these categories and it's

been frankly it's been kind of

frustrating it's almost like a unicorn that that I think we've both been hunting

and I think the best example or the best sort of fit that we've been trying to find is the elusive what I call

a Basel bag which is the bag that you take to a trade show and you and I and you know the other hundreds of watch

writers and bloggers and journalists that show up at S.H. and Basel every

year you know we've got a lot of us carry our laptops with us. We've got you know a camera body and maybe a lens a notebook and pen

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