Hello and welcome to another episode of the Gray NATO, a Hodincky

podcast. It's a loose discussion of travel, diving, driving, gear, and most certainly watches.

This is episode 119 and we thank you for listening.

Well, James, I think this week we might be able to actually cover travel diving, driving gear and watches this time.

I think we'd probably do all of it.

Yeah, you've had a pretty fun trip that you just got back from.

Normally we record these episodes, you know, a couple days in advance

of when they go up, but we're actually recording this, about 12 hours before it's going to publish.

This segment, you know, obviously the main chunk of the show

is an interview with our buddy James Lambden,

but this kind of front and then the bumper at the back,

the final notes was recorded very freshly as you've been

you've been on the road. Yeah and you know thanks for being patient here I got home

fairly late last night from kind of a long road trip that Kishani and I took up to the

Upper Peninsula of Michigan. I had hinted about this trip last week when we recorded and funny you know even within the week between shows

we've done this really really fun adventure we drove gosh it's about an eight

hour drive from Minneapolis up to Munising

near Munising Michigan to what's called the pictured rocks National Lakeshore and

we got a National Park Service campground or camp site on an area called 12-mile beach, which is this beautiful, just very long, I don't know if it's 12 miles or if it's 12 miles from something, but this wonderful camped.

And so we car camped.

We set up our big four-person REI dome tent and then thankfully we brought along a this screen house you know so it's one of these

kind of screen tents that you can set up and we put that over our picnic table and

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