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Jason how are we doing?

I'm doing pretty well it's uh it's a rare evening recording session for us here

uh you're you're just back from a long travel day and yeah it's

it's pushing well at 7 o'clock here 8 o'clock in the evening so I don't know

if this this episode will take on a different tone but at least the main topic was it was

kind of pre-recorded so we'll see how the yeah intro and outro go for us yeah this is the

third of our four-piece wind-up Chicago chat so we've got Mike Pearson and Wesley Smith on two separate

chats one with Mike Pearson and another with Wesley Mike works for

Zodiac now but is largely the guy that connected Jason and I and then Wesley Smith is the fellow that

founded a standard H makes some great t-shirts and it's really just a lovely dude to

sit and chat with yeah so that's uh that's gonna come up in a few minutes here

I'm fresh back from eight days on the West Coast for a Hodinky project,

some of which has made it to social media at this point.

I'm going to save it for a longer thing that can write once people see the project

I think that's when I would talk more in depth about it but we're out there just

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