Hello and

welcome to another episode of The Grey NATO, a Houdinky podcast.

It's a loose discussion of travel, diving, driving gear and most certainly watches.

This is episode 121 and we thank you for listening.

Jason, this is a pretty dope episode.

I mean, people at this point would have seen the title.

Yeah, which kind of gives it away, but this is kind of like a long time coming.

Yeah, it's been in the works for a long time.

I think, you know, I talked to Fabian Kusto at Basel World last year, met up with him before the show.

He was doing some Seco stuff there at the time and we were in the lobby of his hotel and we were

talking, oh we should do an interview, we should do do a podcast get together and then just

this past March I was going to be in New York for a few things and we were going to

do a couple of recordings in the office there and he's in New York he's based there for the most part and he was going to come over and meet us and record and of course a pandemic descended on the world and we had to scrap that and finally here December he was really kind of going to come on and the nice thing is it's one of these things for you know him so it didn't have to come off like a press release or you know a kind of like you have 15 minutes with the guy who just won this sports title and like you know what I mean so I was pretty thrilled I got to

sit I helped produce the recording you know actually recording it on my end and yeah

I'm pretty happy with how it came out so we'll get to that in in just a few minutes.

Jason I know that you had some mechanical failures this weekend.

Yeah, so I had the I had the land rover in at a one of the shops I use last week for some welding work. I had a bit of

corrosion hole in the rear cross member and so I had my guy Tony across town he's pretty

proficient with a with a welding torch he he patched that up in whatever and I

drove it home picked up to Shawnee we went to down the

road here there was a little park with a food truck got some food we're headed back home

and I just started off from a stop sign and I heard a bang from the rear and

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