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Internationally, it's clear that the Americans are looking around after years, as Trump does

correctly put it, kind of being asleep at the wheel, and seeing a world that's very different.

And that sense of insecurity, the vulnerability, the vulnerable superpower is also what's driving a lot of this geopolitical instability.

The political class in general, but this Labour Party in particular, their deference to

international law is a way of avoiding trying to even think about broader geostrategic questions

and interests. You just defer to the ruling of the international court

and therefore no more needs to be said about it. Hello and welcome to the Spike podcast. I'm Fraser Myers.

In the studio as I'll with me is Spike's editor, Tom Slater. Hello. And joining us down the line,

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