Welcome to the Science of Success.

Introducing your host, Matt Bodner.

Welcome to the Science of Success, the number one evidence-based growth

podcast on the internet with more than 5 million downloads and listeners in over

100 countries. In this episode we share some incredible insights into how you can

improve your life, improve your thinking, and why advice so often gets it wrong with

our guest Michael Bungee Stanyer.

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In our previous widespread-spanning interview, we discussed the founding of a multi-billion dollar

public company, the inside baseball of what it takes to build a truly massive business, and we dug into some of the biggest questions in life.

How do we deal with the problem of evil? How do we merge science and spirituality and much more with our previous guest Scott Shay.

Now for our interview with Michael.

Michael Bungi Stanier is a leading expert in teaching organizations around the world about being

coach-like as an essential leadership behavior. His book, The Coaching Habit is the

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