Hello, I'm Rory Stewart, and I'd like to tell you about an intelligent squared event

I'm doing with the classicist author and broadcaster Mary Beard. Together we'll be discussing

politics and power from the Caesars to Sunack, who gets to Winpar, who is excluded. Does power

always corrupt or other examples of leaders who've maintained their integrity while an authority?

And how does the nature of power vary across different times and cultures? These are just some

of the questions that Mary and I will be trying to answer. In person tickets are now sold out,

but you can still watch online on the 13th of November at 7pm BST. Put your questions

to us live as we discuss power and politics down the ages. Hello podcast listeners, I'm Connor

and welcome to this week's episode of Intelligent Squared. Today we're joined by Nigel Inxter,

author of the new book The Great Decoppling, China America and the Race for Technological

Supremacy. And in the episode, Nigel spoke to Linda Yu, the economist and broadcaster,

about how the race for developing technologies like artificial intelligence will shape the

geopolitics of the 21st century. It's a fascinating conversation, and if you do enjoy it,

you can find a link for Nigel's book in the podcast description. But now let's go to the episode.

Hello, I'm Linda Yu, an economist and broadcaster. Welcome to this episode of the Intelligent Squared

Podcast. I'm joined by Nigel Inxter, senior advisor at the International Institute for Strategic

Studies. He's the former director of operations and intelligence at MI6, the secret intelligence

service of the British government. We're here to discuss his new book The Great Decoppling,

China America and the Struggle for Technological Supremacy. Welcome, Nigel. Let me just start off

by asking you why you wrote this book, because you actually write in your own introduction,

you had never planned to write this book or any book on China. So, what changed your mind?

Well, thanks very much, Linda. I had written a book about China before, for double-eyed,

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