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🗓️ 14 October 2023
⏱️ 77 minutes
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In a wide ranging conversation, founding friend David French takes over the reins for Curtis Chang and discusses the new book, The Great Dechurching: Who’s Leaving, Why Are They Going, and What Will It Take to Bring Them Back? by Jim Davis, Michael Graham, and Ryan Burge. David and coauthor Graham discuss all the reasons for “the great dechurching” with a particular emphasis on the more surprising results, as well as the difficulty reversing the decline in church attendance.
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The Great Dechurching: Who’s Leaving, Why Are They Going, and What Will It Take to Bring Them Back? by Jim Davis, Michael Graham, and Ryan Burge
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the Good Faith Podcast. I am not Curtis Chang. I'm founding friend David |
0:23.5 | French Curtis. Couldn't join us this week, but I was going to be with y'all talking to |
0:29.1 | our guest anyway. So it's just going to be the two of us. It's me and Michael Graham, co-author |
0:36.0 | of a book with a really relevant and vivid title, The Great Deturching, who's leaving, |
0:45.2 | why are they going, and what will it take to bring them back? And Michael, you were co-authored |
0:50.3 | this with Jim Davis, and it also says, with Ryan Burge. So it's you and Jim, with Ryan, and Ryan, |
0:59.9 | I know, good faith listeners, loyal good faith listeners, we'll remember him because we've talked |
1:05.2 | about him a million times in his research a million times. So Michael, welcome to the podcast. I'm |
1:13.0 | really looking forward to this conversation. It's so good to be here. I've been really looking |
1:16.7 | forward to this one. All right. So The Great Deturching, you are taking a look at something that I |
1:22.8 | think when historians look back at this time period, we'll say this is one of the single most |
1:28.3 | significant and rapid cultural changes in the country and really kind of in the nation's |
1:36.0 | history, this extraordinary decrease in church affiliation. So first, sort of talk about |
1:45.2 | what you did. There's an obvious reason for the book to take a look at it. What's going on? |
1:52.8 | So how did you do this? What all did you look at? Well, before I answer that, I don't want to |
1:59.0 | bury the lead. The lead is this. We're talking about 40 million adult Americans who have left |
2:06.3 | houses of worship that's all religious traditions in the last 25 to 30 years. And so that's |
2:12.5 | the largest and fastest religious shift in our country's history. It's larger than the first and |
2:17.0 | second grade awakening, plus the entirety of the Billy Graham Crusades combined. So we got here, |
2:23.6 | so Jim and I are both pastors in Orlando, Florida. I guess recently now I'm the program director |
2:29.8 | for the Keller Center for Cultural Apologetics. I guess my pastor heads a little bit on the |
2:33.2 | sidelines right now. But Jim and I were, we'd run across some data that 43% of our city had, |
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