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How Do You Cope?

The Gratitude List: Bonnie “Prince” Billy | 9

How Do You Cope?

Wondery

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

5695 Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s bonus episode, musician Bonnie “Prince” Billy, aka Will Oldham, shares the 5 things he is currently grateful for, and explains why he sees gratitude as acts of reverence and defiance.


Head to the main episode to hear about Will’s experiences of caring for his mother when she developed Alzheimer’s, how he copes with grief, and why streaming has harmed our appreciation of music.


You can send in your thoughts and reflections to [email protected], or follow the show on Instagram and TikTok @howdoyoucopepod.


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0:49.0

One hundred.

1:03.2

The Welcome everyone to the Gratitude List.

1:05.7

This is the bonus podcast of How Do You Cope,

1:08.7

where I speak to my guest about things they're grateful for because because I've found along the road that gratitude

1:11.8

plays an enormous part in reframing life, whether it's difficult or easy, life in all its

1:21.3

colours, really. And my guest today is Will Oldham, who releases music under the name

1:26.6

Bonnie Prince Billy. And Will, on the

1:29.7

main podcast, we did actually speak about how gratitude for small things helps you in difficult times.

1:37.0

But I wanted to ask about something, before we get to your items, something you said on stage

1:43.3

recently in London, which has stayed with me,

1:46.8

is about how gratitude helps you to honour the suffering of others on earth. And it was quite a,

1:58.5

quite a big thing to hear while you were playing songs from your new album, The Purple Bird.

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