Good evening. I'm John Yang. Since the Supreme Court overturned the constitutional right to seek an abortion three years ago this past week, 20 states have banned or restricted access to the procedure. Despite those hurdles, though, women are still finding roots to terminating pregnancies. Currently, medication accounts for about two-thirds of abortions.

How one of those pills fueled grassroots movements that helped change laws across Latin America

is explored in The Network, a new three-part podcast from NPR and Futuro Media.

Women stopped dying. We just started hearing that patients were taking some pills.

You can have a safe abortion and you can do it at home.

This is the story of that discovery.

But more than that, it's the story of the women behind it.

Ali Rogan spoke with podcast co-host Martina's and Victoria Estrada,

who are journalists at Latino USA, which is heard on NPR stations.

Martha and Victoria, thank you so much for joining us.

Marta, we are marking three years since the landmark Dobbs decision.

Walk us through the relative landscape of abortion access in the United States versus that of various countries throughout

Latin America. Since the Dobbs decision, there have been more abortions in the United States,

not less. And for a lot of people, it might sound

shocking. But one of the experts we talked to who had worked for Plent Pellant Hood Global for many

years, she was the one who saw what happened in Latin America 30 years ago. And it was exactly

the same thing in countries where abortion was mostly illegal

or very highly restricted, women found a way using abortion pills to have access to safe abortions.

And they created these underground networks that were helping women access those abortions.

And so what she told us is that she is seeing this happening in the United States more and more, too.

We are seeing more access to abortion while at the same time it's becoming less legal.

And the journey of this podcast, Victoria, starts in Brazil. Walk us through why the

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