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The Grant Williams Podcast

The Grant Williams Podcast: The Tether Discussion feat. Bennett Tomlin & George Noble - FULL EPISODE

The Grant Williams Podcast

Grant Williams

Business, Business:investing, Investing

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2021

⏱️ 83 minutes

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Summary

My recent foray into the world of the stablecoin tether and the companies and personalities surrounding it has been utterly fascinating. I’ve seen many curious things during my career but the seemingly blatant nature of what certainly seems, at face value, like a gigantic fraud, has astonished me. In the recent June edition of Things That Make You Go Hmmm..., I dove into Tether (the company), Bitfinex and tether (the coin) and what I found blew my mind. Much of my research was built upon the work of a group of tether skeptics, one of whom, Bennett Tomlin, agreed to join me for this discussion to hopefully bring the story to wider attention. It’s worth pointing out that Bennett is not a crypto-skeptic, but what he’s uncovered is a complex web of deceit and obfuscation that will, I suspect, take your breath away like it did mine. Joining Bennett and myself is George Noble, a hugely experienced hedge fund manager with an extraordinary track record. Like Bennett, George is not anti-crypto, but his own work on Tether has led him to similar conclusions. Hopefully, this discussion between a stalwart of the financial industry and a man who has immersed himself deep in the crypto world can help both sides understand each other better and you to gain a perspective on what could well become the biggest story in crypto in the coming weeks and months... As a companion piece to this discussion, for a limited time, I’m making BOTH this podcast, in its entirety, and the June edition of Things That Make You Go Hmmm..., Schrödinger's Coin, free to non-subscribers. Find them at www.grant-williams.com/download As a reminder, Silver Tier subscribers to https://grant-williams.com get access to both Things That Make You Go Hmmm… and all editions of The Grant Williams Podcast, including The End Game, The Super Terrific Happy Hour, and The Narrative Game.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Before we get going, here's a bit where I remind you that nothing we discussed should

0:14.1

be considered as investment advice.

0:16.6

This conversation is for informational and hopefully entertainment purposes only.

0:20.6

So while we hope you find it both informative and entertaining, please do your own research

0:25.6

or speak to a financial advisor before putting a dime of your money into these crazy markets.

0:30.9

And now on with the show.

0:38.6

Regular listens to this podcast will be somewhat familiar with my take on cryptocurrencies in

0:43.2

general and Bitcoin in particular.

0:45.8

Generally speaking, I try and steer clear of the crypto space because though it interests

0:49.6

me greatly, I fully understand that those who spend their lives completely immersed in

0:54.4

this technology and the narrative surrounding it are at a significant advantage to me.

0:59.2

Well, to be honest, the toxicity of the environment is something which you'll find unnecessary

1:04.0

and something of an impediment around both learning and questioning both the technology

1:08.1

itself and that narrative that surrounds it.

1:11.2

Because of that, I tend to confine my conversations about Bitcoin and crypto to my life away from

1:15.4

the microphone with the notable exception of what was a hugely enjoyable debate I hosted

1:20.2

between Mike Green and Nick Carter a few months ago on this very podcast.

1:23.9

However, recently my attention has been drawn to a remarkable story that sits square in

1:29.6

the middle of the crypto world and which has drawn an ordinary amount of attention from

1:33.7

those skeptical about both the people responsible for its existence and the integrity of its place

1:39.6

in the fast growing world of cryptocurrencies.

1:42.2

I'm talking about Tether, the largest so-called stablecoin, an instrument which underpins

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