The Grant Williams Podcast Ep. 78 - Travis Kling FULL EPISODE

The Grant Williams Podcast

Grant Williams

Business, Business:investing, Investing

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🗓️ 9 April 2024

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

My guest on this edition of The Grant Williams Podcast is Travis Kling of Ikigai Asset Management, who joins me to explore a concept gaining increasing traction in today’s market environment – financial nihilism. Along the way, we also discuss the delicate balance between keeping interest rates low and inflating our way out of debt, the challenges faced by central banks in managing monetary policy to support economic growth while preventing excessive inflation and the potential impact of technological innovation on inflation as well as the possibility of a great wealth transfer from older generations to younger ones. Of course, we couldn’t end without a discussion around the role of cryptocurrencies in this changing economic landscape, so there’s that as well… Every episode of the Grant Williams podcast, including This Week In Doom, The End Game, The Super Terrific Happy Hour, The Narrative Game, Kaos Theory and Shifts Happen, is available to Copper, Silver and Gold Tier subscribers at my website www.Grant-Williams.com. Copper Tier subscribers get access to all podcasts, while members of the Silver Tier get both the podcasts and my monthly newsletter, Things That Make You Go Hmmm… Gold Tier subscribers have access to my new series of in-depth video conversations, About Time.

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0:16.0	Before we get going, here's the bit where I remind you that nothing we discussed should be considered as investment advice. This conversation is for informational and hopefully entertainment purposes only.
0:20.0	So while we hope you find it both informative and entertaining, please do your own research or speak
0:26.2	to a financial advisor before putting a dime of your money into these crazy markets.
0:30.3	And now, on with the show.
0:33.0	Welcome everybody to another edition of the Grant Williams Podcast.
0:38.0	Ah, crypto.
0:44.0	We're going to talk about crypto today
0:45.0	and we're going to do so with one of the most thoughtful people in the space,
0:49.0	Travis Cling.
0:50.0	If Travis is someone I've been following for a long time and there's any regular
0:54.0	listeners to this podcast know that crypto is not my world as I've said in the past
0:58.4	echoing my one of my good friends it's just not suitable for me. I understand the appeal. I understand bits of it, but my knowledge is by no means what it needs to be to
1:08.0	to pine articulately on the space. But my guest, Travis Kling is the antithesis of me.
1:13.4	He's in the space.
1:14.4	He came from a traditional background as you'll hear in finance.
1:18.0	And he wrote a couple of pieces recently, which really, really struck me, a recent one that was published by our mutual friend Ben Hunt,
1:24.7	Epshone Theory about financial nihilism and another long Twitter thready wrote at the beginning of
1:29.4	February around the idea of stop pretending in the world of crypto the numbers going up and just
1:35.2	embrace it and I wanted to talk to Travis to have a thoughtful debate about a part of crypto which
1:40.7	has fascinated me for a long time and what I can promise you is I got everything
1:45.4	that I wanted and so much more. Travis was brilliant. I thoroughly enjoyed
1:48.6	talking to him and I hope you enjoy the conversation too. Travis, welcome to the
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