Before we get going, here's a bit where I remind you that nothing we discussed should

be considered as investment advice.

This conversation is for informational and hopefully entertainment purposes only.

So while we hope you find it both informative and entertaining, please do your own research

or speak to a financial advisor before putting a dime of your money into these crazy markets.

You're about to listen to a special preview edition of The Gromp Williams Podcast featuring

my very special guest, Tom Bacchrack of P.F.H. Capital.

In this conversation, we discussed two subjects, close, not only to my heart, but also to those

of Tom's investors, debt and energy.

Both are incredibly important places for investors to focus, and Tom makes an excellent guide

for us down both paths.

Every episode of The Gromp Williams Podcast, including the end game, the super terrific

happy-out, the narrative game, this week in Doom, shifts happen, and the new series Chaos

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And join our exciting community today, and now, on with the show.

Tom, welcome to The Show, great to have you with me.

It's Zonard Beer.

Thanks for having me.

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