Hi there, this is part two of a two-parter on federal housing in the United States.

And while you can listen to it all by its loansome, I do recommend that you hit pause, go back,

and listen to part one on housing policy in the U.S. The federal government has not always

been involved in housing. But once it got involved, the policies that it adopted shaped

housing and home ownership in drastic ways. Listen to that one to help you better understand

what we're about to talk about in part two, housing in Atlanta, Georgia.

Because Atlanta had the first public housing, right?

The very first, 1936, Tech Wood Homes. The federal government's answer to both houselessness

and what it saw as insufficient housing, what it would call slums in the United States.

In just in case you do skip part one, I'll go ahead and not bury the lead. Tech Wood Homes

was an all white housing development. Atlanta also built all black housing developments,

but public housing was segregated as a matter of policy. So keep that in mind, let's get

into it. The specifics 101, I'm Hannah McCarthy.

I'm the Capitite Che.

And to talk about public housing in general is nearly impossible. There are so many stories,

so many different approaches and shifts across the country. I am choosing Atlanta because

of the story that public housing residents created in that city. It's a story that Akira

Drake Rodriguez, who we met in part one.

I'm assistant professor of city and regional planning at the University of Pennsylvania's

White Turned School of Design.

Describes in her book diverging space for deviance.

So in terms of piloting, public housing, policies, administration and programs and sort

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