Welcome to Misquoting Jesus with Bart Ehrman. The only show, where a six-time New York Times

best-selling author and world-renowned Bible scholar, uncovers the many fascinating, little-known

facts about the New Testament, the historical Jesus, and the rise of Christianity. I'm your host, Megan Lewis. Let's begin.

Well, I'd like to welcome everyone to this special edition of the Misquoting Jesus podcast.

This time, instead of being interviewed myself, I'm doing the interviewing.

And this is great because I don't have to answer any hard

questions. My guest today is Mark Goodacre, whom many of you will know quite well. We will be

talking today about the Gospel of Thomas, which is, I think, without a doubt, the most important

gospel, not in the New Testament, at least

for modern scholarship and for a sort of general audience interest. First, welcome, Mark.

Hello. Hi. Hi, Bart. Thank you very much. It's a very great honor to be on your podcast. Wow.

Okay. Mark, as listeners, no, you have your own podcast as well. And is it just called the Mark Goodacre podcast? No, it's called the NT pod. This is nice and short, NT, New Testament pod, but NT pod. NT pod, very good. Makes it makes it really easy to remember so that if people Google stuff, they can just Google that. But yeah, you can get to it by just going Mark Goddick podcast.

Is that just one word, NT pod? No, it's two words. Well, it all started because I used to have the New Testament Gateway, and I started abbreviating that to NT Gateway and NTGateway. And then when I did my blog, it was NTBlog. So when I started my podcast about 10 years ago, I just thought, well, NT pod, you know, it was a family of internet stuff.

Okay, yeah. Well, you know, you can trace the lineage of these things. And the investment scholars are good at that. That's what we do. That's right. Well, as you all know, if you don't know, Mark, you can tell already he's a Brit. and Mark, let me just give you a brief introduction to him.

I mean, even though he's a Brit. And Mark, let me just give you a brief introduction to him.

Even though he is a Brit and spent most of his life in Britain, he's now the Francis Hill Fox

Professor of Religious Studies at Duke University. And he now serves as the chair of the

Department of Religious Studies. Everyone who chairs the department

in this climate knows this is, that's a hugely onerous job. It's very hard to do any work

when you're trying to push papers the whole time. So Mark, thank you for taking time out here.

So Mark did his education in England. In fact, he spent his entire education, I believe, at Oxford.

Is that correct? Yeah, 1985 to 1994. He did both his bachelor's and his master and his doctorate there at Oxford.

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