You're listening to the podcast Think Biblically, conversations on faith and culture. I'm your host Sean McDowell, an author, speaker, and an apologics professor at Talbot School of Theology here at Biola University.

And I'm your co-host, Scott Ray, professor of Christian ethics also at Talbot School of Theology.

Thanks so much for joining us today.

We are here today with a good friend of mine, Dan Anderson.

Dan, thanks for joining us.

You have what I would consider a really remarkable

story. You had one of the most enviable pastoral positions, probably in the world in terms of pay

where you lived, and you gave it up to work at the Union Rescue Mission.

And before you tell your story, I think it would be interesting for our listeners to hear that

the Union Rescue Mission was actually started by Lyman Stewart, who made money in Union Oil, started Biola, and

started the Union Rescue Mission.

So there's a special connection that's here.

There you go.

That's a good way to look at it. Well, tell us your story.

Thanks, Sean, for having me on the show. So I was a pastor for 22 years in San Clementi, California,

prior to being a youth pastor.

So I was getting very comfortable, being comfortable in a really nice neighborhood.

The church leadership was very gracious, generous.

I was seeing myself riding off into the sunset, planning my bucket list, and I noticed all

my bucket list dealt with me.

And I became very uncomfortable when I was reading scripture that I was too comfortable being comfortable.

And so it created this concern like, is this what I'm supposed to do with the rest of my life?

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