Yeah, one of the living in a sense,

and it's a turn you like a refugee.

Don't have to live like a rap for sure.

Somewhere, somehow, somebody must have to get you a ransom.

All right, well we, it wouldn't be a roundtable podcast at least every other week if we didn't bash some Republicans.

The reason for the latest bashing is James Langford from Oklahoma, Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin, proposed this idea that we ought to abolish Columbus Day and elevate Juneteenth as a national holiday. John Cornyn turned out to be

the sponsor of that bill. All I can say to these senators at this point and Cornyn of all

people should know better but is what the hell are you thinking?

We cannot, first of all, in the midst of statues coming down across the country, as our producer reminded me today and I saw this morning,

they just removed a Columbus statue from outside

the state capital in Columbus, Ohio,

a 20 foot tall statue. What's lost in this, in this, all this, among other things, at least with the

Columbus example is the Columbus statues are actually a great sign of American

assimilation and immigrant pride.

I mean the Italian Americans erected them around the country after coming here in droves

and use them in many ways to express their individual ethnic immigrant

pride but also to plant themselves as part of the American fabric.

Of course Columbus was a great explorer of and discover of the new world

and we wouldn't be here without him.

Among many small things and jokes we should note.

Our friend Richard Samuison likes to say that,

well, Columbus, if it weren't for Columbus,

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