The GOP’s Texas Hold ‘Em

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🗓️ 19 August 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

Texas just went full throttle and dropped the wildest political heist of 2025 — a mid-decade redistricting blitz where Republicans rigged the map, Democrats fled the state, and cops chased lawmakers like it was a Netflix drama. Add in nationwide “Fight the Trump Takeover” protests and blue states plotting revenge, and you’ve got the biggest battle for Congress before 2026.

Rick sits down with Texas Senators Carol Alvarado and Ronald Gutierrez to unpack what they are doing to resist this insanity. This episode breaks down the Texas gerrymander gone nuclear—and why it could decide whether Trump’s GOP keeps America on lockdown.

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0:34.1	And I'm going to reintroduce them in a minute by two of the people in the state of
0:38.0	Texas leading the fight against Greg Abbott and Ken Paxton and Donald Trump's illegal
0:44.1	Trump redistricting plan.
0:46.3	They are Senator Roland Gutierrez and Senator Carol Alvarado, both of whom have been trying to find
0:53.8	ways to strategize to block this in the Senate, slow it down,
0:58.0	break it up, drag it out. We're going to talk to them today about how the fight's going,
1:03.6	what the next moves are, and what the reaction across the country of these other states
1:08.3	jumping into this, including California, will be.
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