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The Good Fight

The Good Fight Club: The “Trump Is Dead” Conspiracy, the Big Summit Between Xi, Putin and Modi, and Firings at the CDC

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s episode of The Good Fight Club, Yascha Mounk, Francis Fukuyama, Mona Charen, and Russell Muirhead explore why the “Trump is dead” conspiracy took hold, the recent summit between Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, and Narendra Modi, and what the latest developments at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tell us about the fate of public health in America. Francis Fukuyama is the Olivier Nomellini Senior Fellow at Stanford University. His latest book is Liberalism and Its Discontents. He is also the author of the “Frankly Fukuyama” column, carried forward from American Purpose, at Persuasion. Mona Charen, syndicated columnist and author, is Policy Editor of The Bulwark and host of two weekly podcasts: The Mona Charen Show and Just Between Us. Russell Muirhead teaches Government at Dartmouth College. He is the author, with Nancy Rosenblum, of Ungoverning: The Attack on the Administrative State and the Politics of Chaos. He serves in the NH House of Representatives where he focuses on election law. Email: [email protected] Podcast production by Mickey Freeland and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google X: @Yascha_Mounk & @JoinPersuasion YouTube: Yascha Mounk, Persuasion LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:06.2

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0:11.1

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0:30.1

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0:33.5

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0:40.6

facts, the stubbornness of facts, and who've always wanted to obliterate facts. And now, you know,

0:46.2

it's easier than ever to do that.

1:00.9

As some of you know, we have been experimenting with a new format on this podcast.

1:07.2

The Good Fight Club panel discussion about everything wonderful and often not so wonderful that has happened in the world in the last week.

1:10.3

And the feedback so far has been

1:11.8

really positive. A lot of you have been tuning in to these episodes and I've gotten a lot of

1:16.5

very nice emails encouraging us to continue going with this. So for the next month at least,

1:22.4

we're going to be doing one of these every week. So we now have three episodes of a podcast every

1:26.6

week to interview episodes and

1:29.6

one good fight club. I will leave the whole of this conversation on payworld this week,

1:37.8

but starting in the next weeks, we are often going to put the last of the three segments each week behind the payroll.

1:45.7

So if you want to make sure that you don't miss any part of these really fun conversations,

1:51.6

please go to yashamong.substack.com and become a paying subscriber.

1:57.9

And please make sure, if you haven't't already that you have added this podcast,

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