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The Good Fight

The Good Fight Club: Gaza Ceasefire, U.S. Government Shutdown, and America’s Slouch Towards Autocracy

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s episode of The Good Fight Club, Yascha Mounk, Garry Kasparov, Russ Muirhead, and Quico Toro discuss the ceasefire in Gaza, the impact of the U.S. government shutdown, and the extent to which America under Trump mirrors Russia and Venezuela. Garry Kasparov is the chairman and founder of the Renew Democracy Initiative (RDI), which publishes The Next Move. Russell Muirhead teaches Government at Dartmouth College. He is the author, with Nancy Rosenblum, of Ungoverning: The Attack on the Administrative State and the Politics of Chaos. He serves in the New Hampshire House of Representatives where he focuses on election law. Quico Toro is a contributing editor at Persuasion, Director of Climate Repair at the Anthropocene Institute, and writes the Substack One Percent Brighter. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following ⁠⁠⁠this link on your phone⁠⁠⁠. Email: [email protected] Podcast production by Jack Shields and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Google⁠⁠⁠ X: ⁠⁠⁠@Yascha_Mounk⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠@JoinPersuasion⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠Yascha Mounk⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠Persuasion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

If you're in traffic right now, look around. You'll see empty car seats. Nobody loves sitting in traffic. We don't. And neither do ESSO. Every filled passenger seat in this jam could mean one less car on the road. And ESO want to help with that. Carpooling could mean less traffic. Split fuel bills. And new friends. Are we friends? I added you on social media. We don't have social media. We're bobbleheads. No, I've got social media.

0:23.6

More journeys made together. And new friends. Oh, we're friends. Oh, I added you on social media. We don't have social media.

0:21.2

We're bubbleheads.

0:22.1

Oh, I've got social media.

0:23.5

More journeys made together.

0:25.4

That's thoughtful driving.

0:27.5

SEO.

0:28.4

See sO.com.uk.

0:31.0

First of all, so anything Trump does, you know, has only two criteria.

0:34.6

So it's money and glory, personal.

0:38.2

Nothing else. Clarification, money and glory, personally. Nothing else.

0:45.4

Glorification, monetization. Every decision. Whether it's Tariffs, whether it's mid-wis-peace, whether it's shut down.

0:48.8

And now the good fight with Yasha Monk. Well, it has been a really eventful news in the world with some glimmers of hope in the Middle East

1:03.9

and also a lot of worrying developments in the United States and elsewhere.

1:09.2

This week we talk about the peace deal and have

1:13.0

some contrasting opinions about how to interpret the last two years of war and conflict in the Middle East.

1:22.4

We talk about the topic that somehow is not as central to our conversations in the last few weeks

1:26.4

as similar events have been in the last few weeks as similar events have

1:27.7

been in the past. The government shutdown and how it is going to play out politically and whether

1:33.2

it might eventually end. And finally, we turn to our international guests to ask, have they

1:40.9

already seen the movie that's playing out in the United States in Spanish,

1:44.4

in Venezuela, or in Russian, in the Soviet Union?

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