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The Good Fight

The Good Fight Club: A Warm Welcome for MBS, the Future of MAGA, and Democrat Infighting

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.6907 Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Edward Luce, Russell Muirhead, Lauren Harper Pope, and Yascha Mounk on this week’s news. In this week’s conversation, Ed Luce, Russ Muirhead, Lauren Harper Pope, and Yascha Mounk discuss the recent Saudi visit and what it says about Donald Trump’s broader foreign policy, the direction of the MAGA movement, and the fallout in the Democratic Party from Marie Gluesenkamp Perez challenging Chuy Garcia’s succession scheme. Edward Luce is the U.S. national editor and a columnist at the Financial Times, and the author of Zbig: The life of Zbig Brzezinski: America’s Great Power Prophet. Russell Muirhead teaches Government at Dartmouth College. He is the author, with Nancy Rosenblum, of Ungoverning: The Attack on the Administrative State and the Politics of Chaos. He serves in the New Hampshire House of Representatives where he focuses on election law. Lauren Harper Pope is a Welcome Co-Founder working to depolarize American politics and strengthen a centrist faction of the Democratic Party that wins and governs responsibly through work with The Welcome Party (c4), WelcomePAC, and The Welcome Democracy Institute (c3). Lauren leads the coordinated (hard side) program for WelcomePAC, and she writes at WelcomeStack.org. Email: [email protected] Podcast production by Jack Shields and Leonora Barclay. Connect with us! ⁠Spotify⁠ | ⁠Apple⁠ | ⁠Google⁠ X: ⁠@Yascha_Mounk⁠ & ⁠@JoinPersuasion⁠ YouTube: ⁠Yascha Mounk⁠, ⁠Persuasion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:04.8

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0:10.8

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0:17.7

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0:23.2

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0:25.9

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0:30.9

The left and general Democratic Party is very much into like anti-Trump rhetoric of saying like we have to fight we have to blah blah

0:37.6

and protests and whatnot and it's like it's become so predictable at this point right and it's actually a

0:42.8

very lazy talking point in a lot of ways because um americans american voters like they want

0:48.8

the Democratic Party to focus and prioritize the issues that are closest to home to them right

0:53.2

this past election cycle Democrats were prioritizing abortion and democracy,

0:58.8

and voters wanted them to focus on immigration, inflation, and the economy.

1:03.3

And those are things that the Republican Party was focused on.

1:06.7

And now the Good Fight with Yasha Monk.

1:16.5

Thank you. And now the Good Fight with Yasha Monk. Welcome to the 12th installment of the Good Fight Club, and I have an extra special panel for you today.

1:25.7

We have, I'm going to do this, I think in alphabetical order, Edward Luce,

1:29.3

who is the US national editor and columnist at the Financial Times, and the author of Zbik,

1:35.5

an excellent new biography of Zbik Shenzky. We have Russell Mujat, who teaches political

1:43.2

theory and politics at Dartmouth College.

1:45.1

He serves in the New Hampshire legislator and is the co-author with one of my thesis advisors, Nancy Rosenblum, of the book Ungoverning.

1:53.5

And last but not least, we have Lauren Harper Pope, who is the co-founder of Welcome, an organization fighting for a more moderate

2:04.2

centrist Democratic Party actually capable of winning elections. Welcome at Lauren and Russ.

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