Hello there, my very good friends, Andy Murray here for Walt Culture Wrestling,

alongside Michael Hamphlet from Walt Culture Wrestling, here to explore the good, the bad and the ugly

of Hulk Hogan's wrestling career.

A word that has been used frequently to describe Hulk Hogan and his person and his career

and everything that goes into surmising his legacy.

Since he passed away yesterday at the time of recording,

is complicated.

So we wanted to make a video kind of exploring the full breadth, everything

we can possibly fit into the confines of a YouTube video about this man.

Do you think complicated is the right word

Michael Hanflit to describe Terrible Lee, Hulk Hogan? It's increasingly becoming a short hand,

I think the more we are in an era of celebrities that pass years and years and years ago,

when all of a sudden lots of celebrities are passing because we were coming to the end

of the first generation

of celebrity full stop. You would hear a lot of the phrase you can't separate the art from the artist. I think we've moved a long way away from that. I think no longer do we speak in absolutes. It is okay to say, well, in some cases you can, in some cases you shouldn't. And so on. It's a nuanced conversation case by case. But weirdly, and we kind of talked about

this a little bit before we started recording, whilst I understand why people would say complicated,

complex and the like, with Hulk Hogan and Terry Belayer, that becomes one of the cleanest

delineations.

If you were to speak of Hulk Hogan, the character,

in the same way you would speak about, say, like, a soap character,

like a Phil Mitchell, you can just simply assess the life and times of that character through the work of his fiction, right?

And then you can also speak about the real life, Terry Blair, and speak

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