So let me ask you both, let me ask you, Paula, and you, John Mitchinson, how long has

you lost one another? I'll let Paula go first. There's some dispute about how long it

is since I saw John. He sent me an email saying, I can't wait to see you again after 40

years, and I'm thinking, actually, you came to my flat in London in Vauxhall in the 90s

for a party, but but John has wiped us from his memory and has no recollection.

Paula, that doesn't surprise me. One of the things that hasn't gone yet is my memory,

but I wonder if it was just, it must have been at that. I think there probably are things

I have repressed about that period of my life. It was not my, it was not the happiest

time of my life, but I'm sure I'm sure I would have remembered. In Vauxhall. In Vauxhall,

yeah, Crimson with Rodin Vauxhall. I was lived on the same double page spread of the

eighties and no matter where I moved in London, but I discovered. But you were in London

for a long time, right? Well, I went to university in York, then I

went briefly in Manchester, then I was in London working at the BBC and then at various

record companies. I didn't really see a lot of people from my past, speaking of repressed

things. So before that to answer Andy's question, we really hadn't seen each other since the

eighties when we were undergraduates at the University of Auckland and John left to go back

to the UK and that was really the last time we'd spent any time together. Well, this is so

nice. And also we should just say Paul, just tell us where you are. I am in Auckland, New Zealand,

which is my hometown. It's just amazing, isn't it? We never, this is one of the incredible

upsides about not being able to leave the house for nearly two years. Is we able to bring

people in from all over the world? It's so exciting for us to be able to do this. And it's

so great to see you. And we should also say before we start that the reason that we're doing

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