Hello and welcome to we came to win a collection of stories by the World Cup.

I am a Nelson and today I'm joined as always by my guy Steve Sarooie. How you doing Steve?

I'm pumped that I'm your guy. This is awesome. You and I are going to be having late night chats, just talking tactics and whatnot.

But next we're going to talk about a guy who I know is one of your favorites. And I'm also excited because I watch a ton of Italian soccer or a ton of Syria.

And I know that this guy Diego Maradona is arguably the greatest player of all time. Certainly one of the greatest in Syria's history.

Yes, Steve. I'm happy to admit that I'm a big old Diego Maradona freak. I love this man. He's my hero.

You know, Steve, over the summer I went to the Elvis movie, the movie about the great Elvis Presley.

And it struck me that, you know, one of the things that made Elvis so effective was just how able he was to transmit his emotions.

With every wiggle of his hip, every octave of his voice, you knew exactly what Elvis was feeling. He sang it from his chest.

Well, Diego Maradona, Steve, he played straight from the heart, straight from his chest. I don't think that there's any player who has just made the game so personal.

And in this episode, we're going to talk about the rivalry between Argentina and England and the many political factors that go into this.

There is no competition. Diego Maradona is absolutely the greatest.

Okay. First off, I always thought Pele was the guy that everybody considered the greatest of all time. You're telling me it's Maradona? Why?

No, it's absolutely not, Pele. Listen, Pele is great. Yeah. Pele scored a lot of goals. But ultimately, Pele is a craftsman, right?

Pele goes and he practices and he shows up and he scores goals. Same with Cristiano Ronaldo. He's like a modern version.

He practices a lot. He's doing his headers, practicing his throwings, whatever. Same with Messi. They're craftsmen, right?

The difference between them and Diego Maradona is that Diego Maradona is an artist. All those other guys, yeah, they do beautiful things on the pitch.

But they're fucking boring. Maradona, for me, simply sublime, simply the best.

You're doing a good job of persuading me. And I'll also add this. You know, I mentioned I'm a big Italian serial fan.

The stuff that he did for Napoli, traditionally, which is not a giant club, being able to bring them titles.

You know what, man, time might be on your side. Is he the goat?

Listen, after you hear this episode, you're going to be absolutely convinced.

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