Marriage isn't fair. Marriage isn't about parody. It's about alchemy. It's about transformation. It's about

magic. It's about this amazing thing that happens. You know, a marriage that's based on 50-50

proposition is a formula for failure. A marriage is, there's you and there's me, and then there's this

third person. And the third person is the us.

Dear young married couple, today we're talking about

the go-giver marriage, practical secrets for lasting love. And we have the privilege of interviewing

John David Mann and On a Man. They are such a unique and fantastic duo. They really are. John is an author. He's actually a four

times New York Times bestseller author. You've probably heard of the Go Giver series,

and he is the co-author in that series. And he co-authored this book with his lovely wife,

Anna, who is a therapist and speaker educator about keeping your love truly alive.

And in this conversation, such a fun conversation for both of us.

They are fun.

They talk about two secrets to really making your marriage go to the next level.

So listen up and I hope you enjoy it as much as we do.

Welcome, John and Anna, to the podcast.

We're so thankful to have you on today.

We're delighted to be here.

Yeah, we're so happy.

Thank you.

Well, when we first saw that you guys wrote a marriage book,

we were excited to have you on to talk about it. Yes. Because a couple years ago,

we read The Go Giver. And it really did, I think, impact us in a deep way about the importance

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