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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C.

And from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Welcome to Deep State Radio, I'm Edward Loose of the Financial Times,

standing in for David Rothkoff, who is rather surprisingly embarked on around the world's solo sailing trip.

And I'm delighted today to be joined by Shannon O'Neill, who's Vice President of Studies,

and Nelson and David Rockefeller, Senior Fellow,

but out in American studies at the Council on Foreign Relations at CFR and Shannon,

has a very timely and very interesting new book out called The Globalization Myth,

White Regions Matter.

And I have to say, you know, as a Brit, or I'll get to this maybe a bit later in the conversation,

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