The Global Story: How Canada's Mark Carney is taking on Trump
Global News Podcast
BBC
4.3 • 8.2K Ratings
🗓️ 25 January 2026
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney seemed to challenge Donald Trump in a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos this week, declaring that “the old world order is not coming back” and urging fellow “middle powers” to come together. In response, Trump said Canada gets “a lot of freebies” from the United States and “they should be grateful”. After striking a major trade and tariff deal with China – the US’s rival superpower – is Carney emerging as the leader of a global resistance to Trump? And does he have an alternative vision for the world? We speak to Lyse Doucet, the BBC’s chief international correspondent.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:05.7 | Hey there, I'm Asma Khalid. |
| 0:07.9 | And I'm Tristan Redmond, and we're here with a bonus episode for you from the Global Story podcast. |
| 0:13.1 | The world order is shifting. Old alliances are fraying and new ones are emerging. Some of this |
| 0:19.7 | turbulence can be traced to decisions made in the United States. |
| 0:23.4 | But the U.S. isn't just a cause of the upheaval. |
| 0:26.7 | Its politics are also a symptom of it. |
| 0:29.8 | Every day we focus on one story, looking at how America and the world shape each other. |
| 0:35.0 | So we hope you enjoy this episode. |
| 0:37.1 | And to find more of our show, |
| 0:39.5 | just search for The Global Story, |
| 0:41.8 | wherever you get your BBC podcasts. |
| 0:45.9 | Canada gets a lot of freebies from us, by the way. |
| 0:48.5 | They should be grateful also, |
| 0:49.9 | but then not. |
| 0:50.5 | I watched your prime minister yesterday. |
| 0:53.1 | He wasn't so grateful. |
| 0:55.0 | They should be grateful to us. Canada. Canada lives because of the United States. Remember that, |
| 1:01.7 | Mark, the next time you make your statements. |
| 1:04.5 | That was President Trump speaking at the World Economic Forum in Davos. And it was just the |
| 1:09.3 | latest in the war of words between the American |
| 1:11.9 | President and the Canadian Prime Minister. Mark Carney called out countries that he thinks |
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