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The Girlfriends: Untouchable - Season 4

The Girlfriends S3/E3: He Said, She Said

The Girlfriends: Untouchable - Season 4

iHeartPodcasts and Novel

True Crime, Relationships, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.26K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

In 2010, a traumatised Kelly sits in a police cell and reckons with the horrors of the previous night. Years later, Anna tries to make sense of the night of the murder and discovers that some of the accounts aren’t adding up. If you’re affected by any of the themes in this show please reach out to NO MORE at https://www.nomore.org a domestic violence charity we’ve partnered with. The Girlfriends: Jailhouse Lawyer is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more from Novel, visit https://novel.audio/. Because The Girlfriends: Jailhouse Lawyer has been selected as one of Apple Podcasts’ Summer Listens, we’re offering a 30-Day Free Trial to iHeart True Crime + for a limited time. This includes early access to episodes, 100% ad-free listening, and exclusive bonus content. Open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “iHeart True Crime+, and subscribe today!

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:04.5

Did it occur to you that he'd charmed you in any way?

0:08.4

Yes, it did, but he was a charming man.

0:12.8

It looks like the ingredients of a really grand spy story.

0:17.0

Because this ties together the Cold War with the new one.

0:20.3

I often ask myself, now, did I know the true Jan at all?

0:26.6

Listen to Hot Money, Agent of Chaos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

0:34.8

Hi, everybody. I'm Erica Lance from the Turning River Road. I'm excited to share that you can get access to all episodes of seasons 1, 2, and 3 of the turning 100% ad-free, and access all episodes of the Turning River Road one week early through the Iheart True Crime Plus subscription. To celebrate the summer season, we're offering a 30-day free trial to the IHeart True Crime Plus channel. This offer is available for a limited time, so don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts, search for IHeart True Crime Plus, and subscribe today. Open AI is a financial abomination, a thing that should not be, an aberration, a symbol of rot at the heart of Silicon Valley.

1:11.7

And I'm going to tell you why on my show, Better Offline, the rudest show in the tech industry, where we're breaking down why Open AI, along with other AI companies, are dead set on lying to your boss that they can take your job. I'm also going to be talking with the greatest minds in the industry about all the other ways the rich and powerful are ruining the computer.

1:08.8

Listen to Better Offline on the IHot Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you happen to the greatest minds in the industry about all the other ways the rich and powerful are ruining the computer.

1:32.4

Listen to Better Offline on the IHot Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you happen to get your podcasts.

1:42.3

How could a beautiful young first grade teacher be stabbed 20 times, including in the bat,

1:47.8

allegedly die of suicide? Yes, that was the medical examiner's official ruling. After a closed door meeting, he first named it a homicide. Why? What happened to

1:55.0

Ellen Greenberg? A huge American miscarriage of justice. For an in-depth look at the facts. See what happened to Ellen

2:06.8

on Amazon. All proceeds to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

2:14.1

Hey girlfriend, it's Anna here, giving you a quick heads up on what to expect in this episode.

2:19.2

We're going to talk about the night of the murder a lot and in detail.

2:23.0

And I want to warn you that there's going to be some mentions of domestic abuse, sexual assault and suicide.

2:29.4

But we'll also get the chance to dive into the weeds of the police investigation,

2:34.0

to learn more about the case against dive into the weeds of the police investigation, to learn more about

2:34.8

the case against Kelly and the holes in it. If you feel impacted by some of the themes in this show,

2:41.4

you can reach out to No More. There are domestic violence charity with a lot of great resources

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