Do do do do do do there we go. My name's Todd. This is Kathy. Welcome back to Zen Parenting Radio.

This is podcast number 407, I think. Does that sound about right to you, sweetie? Sure. Why listen to Zen Parenting Radio?

Because you'll feel outstanding and who does want to feel outstanding and always remember our

motto that the best predictor of a child's will being is a parent's self-understanding. On today's

show, we're going to be discussing a book in a friend that I met last week. Her name is Jessica

Leahy and she wrote a book called The Gift of Failure.

And the subtitle is how the best parents learn to let go so their children can succeed.

So that's the one thing.

And I have a few quick takes.

Can't forget about a quick take, sweetie.

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And then last in January, this kind of connects to what you're talking about here, Todd.

We are doing a series at the library in Elmhurst about success.

And so, you know, kind of connected to failure. Yeah. So anyway, those are our

upcoming events. So two quick things. Oh, is you talked about the conference. Yes. And I want to play a

clip from another podcast that one of our keynotes hosts called Dear Sugar. Oh. And she interviewed, so what is Dear Sugar, sweetie? hosts called Dear Sugar.

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